Drew Morrison

Drew Morrison lives in Brooklyn where he is recently single and looking for a roommate.
He also makes dark, humorous illustrations that may or may not make you sad and want to drink.Do you support yourself now by illustrating, or do you have other ways of making money?Yeah,
I have a woodshop where I do freelance furniture making and other
things. Fabrication jobs. People always need stuff built like display
prototypes or even a crate to ship something. That really helps because
I can’t live off of this right now. I get work in illustration, but
it’s not enough.
What kind of furniture do you make? Do people contract you to make them furniture?Because
I’m just really getting into it, I’ll do it when someone wants
something and I’ll try to design it. I’m really just learning now. But
that was originally what I was going to go to school for, furniture
design. So now I’m kind of getting back into it and teaching myself.
Do you have woodworking in your family?Oh yeah. It’s in the blood for sure. My grandfather was a machinist and my dad was a cabinet maker and a woodworker.

Where are you from?I’m
from a suburb outside the city of Buffalo, New York. It was pretty
low-key, nothing too crazy. I just skateboarded and drew pictures with
a big group of kids, the kind of stuff that a lot of people do in the
suburbs. I actually grew up in what’s supposed to be the safest town in
America: Amherst.
Can you vouch for that?No. [Laughs] It’s pretty safe. You could leave your doors unlocked if you wanted to, but no one does.
When did you start drawing?Really young. There are pictures of me drawing in diapers in front of the TV. That sort of thing. Forever.
What would you say your earliest influences were?I
had a huge Ninja Turtle phase. When I reflect on it, I see it a little
bit of it in what I do now. Combining reptiles and people. That kind of
thing. Also a lot of the staple stuff like Marvel comics and Spiderman.

When you draw,
is it something that evolves from doodling, or are doodling and
illustrating two separate things? For instance, do you sit down
sometimes and say to yourself, “Now I’m going to doodle,” and at other
times say, “Now I’m going to make an illustration”?Usually
everything I do starts with some mindless little thing from my
sketchbook that I’ll pick out and draw on a bigger piece of paper. Most
of the time I’ll sit down to work on something and realize an hour or
two later that I’ve just been drawing little guys all night.
What kind of publications do you usually do work for?I’ve done stuff for the
New York Press
and couple of magazines, one for a financial magazine in Seattle. I’ve
promoted so little that I have this dotted series of jobs, but I’ve
kind of hit all different places. I did something for
Alfred Hitchcock magazine which is a small,
Reader’s Digest-style fiction booklet. Then I did a packaging project for a big record
company. I’ve done things for all different levels of printing.
You're living in New York now?Brooklyn. Greene Avenue, near where I went to school. In Fort Greene, kind of on
the Bed-Stuy fringe. My girlfriend is leaving so I’m trying to find a
roommate. Let everyone know. I’m a bachelor and I need a roommate.
[Laughs] I like it though, It’s a nice neighborhood, the people are
nice and a lot of them are actually interested in what I do.
Would you say that there’s an overall, unified aesthetic to what you do, or is it more random?I
think that I definitely have a few different hands, but I try to keep
it consistent. There’s different things, based on materials or whatever
I’m trying to convey, whether it be texture or color. If I just want to
use color I’ll just use ink with a brush and then color it in
Photoshop. But if I want to do sand or trees or something, I’ll just
use a lot of ink and lines to show that. I always wonder if that’s
something that matters, if I’m ever really going in one direction. If I
see a really big body of work from someone I’ll think, “Oh they must’ve
done that in this certain span of three years and it’s really good.”
I
always wonder whether I should being doing things more like that. But I
know what makes me happy is doing different stuff all the time so
that’s what I’ll keep doing. The variable for me is the amount of
realism that I use; it will either be up or down. Maybe I want it to be
a slapstick cartoon, or maybe something like a photograph with a
billion details. I’m shying away from stuff like that though, because I
don’t want to be an old man with only ten drawings. I want to do
volumes.

Do you have any interest in pursuing comics further, by actually turning them into books or something?I
do. I’ve actually started one thing of a guy who goes camping and
fishing. It’s such a daunting thing, though. I have so much admiration
for cartoonists who put out books that are drawn the same way for
hundreds of pages. That alone would be a problem for me, to keep the
same hand throughout the project. I do have stories to tell that I
haven’t gotten to yet. I would say to expect ten-second animation loops
of little guys doing things with funny music like dancing or cutting
vegetables. Something like that. Doing everyday things.
Whom are you’re really into these days?I really like the comics of Sammy Harkham. He’s pretty well known. He publishes this one anthology
Kramer’s Ergot.
His comics are really good, but not a lot of dialogue. They sometimes
just ramble. There’s a lot of action, but it’s ironic. I like Jim
Woodring a lot too. He’s another cartoonist who’s pretty well known,
but not very much so.
Any major projects that you’re working on right now, or pieces that you’re trying to develop?There’s
a circus illustration [first image in profile] that I’ve been working on for about seven months
on and off, with huge breaks in between. I’m trying to get into doing
some animation, basically little loops of some of my characters, set to
music. I just want to make these guys dance. I’m looking for work too.
I’m at a point right now where I can’t just sit and draw, I need to
promote to get jobs so I can like… eat. Then I’ll sit down and draw.
In
a lot of your pieces there are these demonic, Bosch-inspired
characters. Are you influenced by that kind of dark, pessimistic
imagery?Yeah. The little characters who are humans with
bird or demonic little animal faces, a lot of that is just because I
like animals, and [I like] drawing them. That’s a way for me to kind of
draw but not have to draw, let’s say, a human nose because I don’t
really enjoy that. I can do it, but it’s just not what makes me happy.
I like work that’s usually pessimistic like you said, but funny. It’s
needs to be sad and funny.
I do notice that there’s a definite cynicism to a lot of your stuff.I
don’t want to make people just drink and be sad. I want to make them
laugh, or maybe think and reflect on themselves on whether they’re
happy or not. Something like that. I try to have elements of real life
like things that might happen to you, or may already have happened with
humor while maybe pushing over the top a little. Like, if I have a
protagonist who’s just a little blob with a beak or something. I hope
that maybe people will look at it and say, “Hey, that reminds me of so
and so,” or “me when I was this age.”
One
of your pieces is of a giant green Godlike character in a
cloud who’s extinguishing a house with a garden hose. Then there are
other pieces that feature the devil. Does the idea of God or religion
play into your work at all?Not cognitively. I definitely
sometimes like to use different mythical ideas, like using a certain
mythical character then maybe try to adapt it. Not anyone specifically.
Like the guy in the cloud; he’s supposed to be some kind of rain god or
something, but I’m trying to make it funny with the garden hose. I try
to not just do people. I think it’s important to vary it.
It’s almost like you create a world that’s like our world, but the rules aren’t quite the same.That’s
funny. That one that you’re talking about is an assignment. It’s one of
the few school assignments I have on my website. I also water-colored
it, which is something that I don’t usually do. I usually computer
color it.
I notice that a lot
of your pieces are voyeuristic. They feature characters who are by
themselves, and they way that they’re framed, it almost seems like it’s
being viewed from a kind of omniscient perspective. Is that something
you do on purpose?Yeah. There’s the camping guy with the
hot dog, and the other guy alone, fishing. The guy camping, that’s
totally just me thinking about camping in my backyard when I was
little, which is what you do in the suburbs when you’re too young to
actually drive somewhere and go camping, you set up a tent in the
backyard.

When I develop a little scribble into a bigger thing, I’m
thinking about how I can make it into the “epic movie shot.” That’s
where that helicopter video camera shot comes from. It’s like a funny
scene but framed in a way where it’s supposed to look “deep.” That
contrast I think is funny.
Considering
that piece with the Green God-type character, and another one of a fat, trucker guy with a freeway winding around him...
there seems to be a theme of man’s impact in your illustrations.Not
so much anymore, but there was a period where I was obsessing over that
sort of thing; the impact of our species and how the world handles it.
Not so much anymore though, I kind of learned to accept it. That was
back when I was really pessimistic. It’s still in there though.
Your illustrations often include objects with human characteristics and life, such as in the
illustrations with the gears and the two-sided gramophone with a mouth,
and then other pictures where living things like birds are mechanized.
Is that kind of role reversal is a theme for you?Yeah,
but I’m only really using it when it applies, like when there’s no
other option for me. Say I want to represent birds feeding their young
as a metaphor for media propaganda... I figure, “Why not make them metal,
too?” That kind of thing wouldn’t make sense if they were real birds.
The gears with arms and legs, I guess that’s kind of a throwback to the
Acme, and Warner Bros. cartoons. I don’t know, I think everybody likes
little guys with arms and legs running around. The gears though, I
realize that’s bad, because then they can’t work as gears because their
arms and legs are in the way. I guess they could take their arms and
legs off if they wanted to be an actually gear.
The strange, beaked, quasi-human creature, he’s in a lot of your pieces. Is there a story behind that guy?That
kind of evolved from doing figure drawings and drawing a lot of
animals. I just kind of drew whatever I wanted, not to mention drawing
those guys was a lot faster and a lot more fun that drawing human
faces. Also, with the big pointed face, I like the challenge of trying
to create a human expression in the eyes and the pupils. I want to show
what he’s thinking. I want to reduce it to the animal type expression
that people can relate to but not. People seem to get it, though. They
tell me “it’s not me, but it is me.”
Considering that, do you ever think about evolution when you draw?That’s funny you ask, because I just watched that movie
Inherit the Wind
last night which is about a teacher who teaches Darwin in the south and
they put him and jail and prosecute him. I definitely think about what
kinds of little things could have made this all different like “Oh,
this chemical dropped in that puddle and made us all turn into humans.”
I also try to make it so when you first look at it you see strange
creatures like monkeys with fish faces, but then you realize that
they’re doing the kinds of things that humans do. So they have kind of
a delayed reaction.

Some
of your illustrations, I noticed, are sight gags, the most obvious
being the “Sausage Party.”
Do you
feel that kind of humor diffuses the pretentious of the art scene?I
like the one-liners, and the punch line, as long as you can make it
good. If you can draw something that someone likes to look at, and
there are different characters that look funny, they’re going to laugh
at a joke they wouldn’t have found funny if someone had merely said it.
There’s the one on my website where the compass is offering a joint to
a ruler and ruler is saying “no thanks, I’m straight-edge.” That’s so
stupid, but the little guys make it funny. I feel like a lot of older
cartoonists used to do that more. It’s really simple and funny and it
doesn’t have to be a one hundred and fifty page graphic novel that
makes you cry.
A lot of your
illustrations seem like snapshots that could’ve potentially been taken
from a larger story. Do you ever
formulate stories in your head around those pieces?Yeah.
Not developing them has a lot to do with not having enough time. I’m
working towards that though with animation. I want to make little
shorts that would maybe say more, or be a little more entertaining.
There are sometimes pieces where everyone will do that, they’ll come up
with their own story and assign identities to the characters that are
not there. I drew this one piece of a guy in his underwear shaking a
somebody’s hand and everyone asks me “Is that Jesus?” And I’m like “No!
It’s a reptilian man in his underwear.” I think sometimes, in your
head, you have certain figures that you’ve seen your whole life, or
you’ve seen a ton of images of, and you draw them unknowingly in your
own style and then people see the underlying thing that you might not.
It’s a really weird thing.

I
feel like some of your pieces, not all of them, can’t really be placed
within a specific time period. Do you try to create ambiguity around
this, or is it something that just happens?If anything
there are times where I try to create a time period, where you’re
definitely supposed to think it’s from an older time, or I’ll put a
character in an older setting, but it’s never trying to purposely make
a character timeless or anything.
Anything you’ve been published in recently where people may be able to find your stuff?The most recent thing I did was a couple of pieces for
Esquire magazine in Russia. They used me for their website and something for their print. So if you can find an issue of Russian
Esquire magazine you can see a drawing of a big wooden cow, the Trojan cow.
How did you manage to hook up with Russian Esquire?I had a
piece, the mechanical birds drawing in the
American Illustration
annual, and I’m pretty sure that’s where they found me. Then I did a
packaging project for this set of films that are going to be
re-released from a long time ago. The U.S. company that’s going to do
it didn’t end up using them, but a company in France is going to use
them. It’s a re-release of Alejandro Jodorowsky’s
El Topo,
The Holy Mountain and
Fondo Elise,
which is his first thing. I had never seen any of his stuff until I met
this girl who’s the art director at the company that’s releasing them
called me and said, “I want you to watch these films and work on this
project.” It’s funny that they gave it to me because the guy is such a
fucking weirdo. It’s my biggest gig so far. It’s kind of a bummer that
the big U.S. release isn’t going to use it, but it’s cool because some
people in France bought the rights and they’re going to release a
foreign version of it. That should come out this month I think.
I know that as of right now it’s impossible to find those movies anywhere.Do you know the story behind it? The old manager of The Beatles, Alan Klein, he saw
El Topo and John Lennon convinced him to fund
The Holy Mountain,
which was so incredibly over the top. It was really expensive to make,
that’s why he was able to do it. So that guy has had the rights for
about 40 or 50 years other than Japanese versions or something. They’re
really big over there, I’d never heard about them in the U.S.
Have you ever been in a situation where you were close to death and somehow managed to escape it?Oh
yeah. About a year and a half ago I was hit by a police car. It was
really bad. My teeth were all knocked out, and I had injuries. I spent
time in the hospital with a punctured lung. I guess it’s not that close
to death.
That’s pretty fucking close, dude.Yeah I was pretty banged up. I did self portraits of myself in the hospital all fucked up.
Did that happen in Brooklyn?Yeah, on Myrtle Avenue.
Did the NYPD pay your hospital bills?Yeah they had to. I sued them.

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Nick Chatfield-Taylor